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| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How are mental operations observed? |
| Posted by: | aj malerstein |
| Date/Time: | 2010/9/19 23:38:12 |
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I'm trying to respond to the text and the attachment at once. Apparently consciousnessis as a state is accounted for in your Model of Heirarchical Complexity.?You are not a consciousness-denyer. The timing of appearance of cognitive consciousness in MHC stages is prettty much the same as in Piaget's stages.? When the child grasps an object, looking is coordinated with grasping.?She seems to be acting consciously.?In Piaget's stages, if she brings an object to her mouth to?suck, she might not be concious, though two actions are coordinated.?In Piaget's stage 3, when she varies striking a suspended object and watches or listens, and has such a good time doing so, it is hard to believe she is not conscious.?So, timing is not much of a problem for the two systems. Clearly, salience plays a role in what becomes conscious.?But I'm not entirely following your proposal.?I think that you are saying that consciousness is made by coordination of two reenforced events, which becomes a plan, and that the reeforcement of the plan by emotion or affect provides the salience--"an instance of consciousness"--which makes the plan conscious.?Is that right or am I just confused? |